What Is Flickr (and Hot Tips for Using It)
Pages: 1, 2, 3
Ladies and Gentlemen, Meet Fraser Speirs
Provided free as part of the iLife package on all new Macs, iPhoto has become something of a standard photo-management tool among OS X users.
The recent 5.0.3 update finally fixed an editing problem that had vexed many users, where the colors of edited images were changed after the user had clicked "Done" in the adjustment panel.
That fix in place, iPhoto becomes an appealing option for anyone who wanted to manage and edit photos while using Flickr, mainly thanks to the efforts of one British programmer, Fraser Speirs.
As a Mac user and keen photographer, Fraser Speirs saw the potential for Flickr early on. But he was frustrated by having to switch to his browser to add pictures to his photostream.
So he created FlickrExport, a plugin that makes it simple to select one or more images in any iPhoto view, and export them straight to Flickr, complete with tags and even the option to turn the new additions into a set.

The FlickrExport interface covers pretty much every eventuality. You can add tags to an image, and copy identical tags to multiple images. The same goes for image titles, and privacy settings (Flickr lets you nominate other Flickr users as "Family" or "Friend"; when you make an image private, it will only be shown to one or both of those groups).
Speirs's initial activity in creating Flickr Export wasn't enough for him, though. So inspired was he by the openness and hackability of the site, that he started coding more little Flickr hacks:
"I started FlickrExport because I had been a Gallery user for a couple of years and there was a cool iPhotoToGallery plugin by a developer called Zach Wily that I used all the time. When I decided to switch from Gallery to Flickr, there was no way I was going back to a web-based upload form.
"I recently had an email from a FlickrExport user saying that I had, in his words, helped keep his family together across the distances by making it so easy for them all to share their pictures. That's the kind of feedback that I live for."
Why Flickr? What's the attraction of writing code for it? Speirs's answer to this is firm:
"The attraction is, ultimately, that it's hackable. It's literally a platform on which to build new toys. The Flickr API is very complete. You could almost build a desktop application that let you do everything you can do on Flickr without ever opening your web browser. For me, APIs--and complete APIs at that--are the big distinguishing factor in what's commonly called "Web 2.0" applications. Full APIs are what make applications like Delicious Library possible.
"People say that applications like Google Maps will make the desktop application irrelevant, but I disagree. The distinction has always been that the rich experience is on the desktop, but the cool content is on the web. The revolution in web services means that desktop apps are no longer excluded from playing where the cool kids are. If anything, we're entering a new golden age of desktop application development."
Fans of Speirs's software will be pleased to know that he's working on FlickrExport 1.3, addressing recent changes in the Flickr API, and an Objective-C framework called FlickrKit that will be released under an open source license.
Until they are released, and if you're not an iPhoto user, you might be interested in yet another of his Flickr-related hacks: an Automator action for manipulating photos as part of larger workflows. This is also a work in progress, as Speirs says ("It's very much 0.1-quality right now.") but look out for future updates.
Widgets and Extras
Flickr toys are by no means restricted to the computer desktop. As Speirs pointed out, the API turns Flickr into a platform for building toys, and plenty of people have been busy building great stuff you can play with it in your browser.
The Flickr Hacks group knows a thing or two about playing with Flickr; they seem to pick up on all the cool stuff and start playing before anyone else sees it. Among their recent discoveries are Flickr Mosaic Maker (shouldn't that be Makr?) which turns any combination of photostreams or individual pictures into a very smart looking mosaic image (guess what, there's a group) and the Google Earth hack that grabs geotagged images from Flickr based on your current view of the world.
The Visual Dictionary lets you spell words with pictures of letters; Spell with Flickr does the same thing. Has anyone proposed marriage with one of these yet?

There are a number of Greasemonkey scripts that do clever things to Flickr pages if you're using Firefox to browse the site. (At the time of writing, Greasemonkey is in a spot of bother with security problems; upgrade to version 0.3.5 before trying any of these.)
- Photo view makes your personal Flickr home page easier to browse
- Google Maps integrates your photos with Google's impressive mapping service
- del.icio.us contacts allows you to bookmark fellow Flickr users, and tag them, in your del.icio.us links list
Flidget is an OS X Dashboard widget for uploading photos.
Next time you're at some geek conference and plan to post pics of the event to Flickr, you might like to hand out some cards.
My favorite web-based Flickr toy is the Postcard browser, which offers a really cool, fun way to browse through images with a specific tag. I won't try to describe it; just go try it for yourself, and I think you'll see what I mean.
Giles Turnbull is a freelance writer and editor. He has been writing on and about the Internet since 1997. He has a web site at http://gilest.org.
Return to the Mac DevCenter
You must be logged in to the O'Reilly Network to post a talkback.
Showing messages 1 through 10 of 10.
-
Printing
2008-04-02 07:24:07 Nigel Hacking [Reply | View]
How can I print my Photos which are on Flickr?
-
i need a server
2006-09-27 04:26:24 el3aaaash [Reply | View]
i cant log in to my old account because the website is blocked here and now i cant upload or see my photos there
-
URL isn't the same as your screen name
2005-08-03 02:38:17 blech [Reply | View]
One of the few real niggles I have with Flickr is that, contrary to what Giles says at the top of page 2, the URL for your photos is not /photos/username; it starts off as a UID, like /photos/48600109393@N01
There's a reason for this (your screen name isn't permanent, but your URL is), but you do have to grub around in the settings (sorry, I can't remember where), and if your username is already in use for that part of the URL, you may have to use something different there.
-
I still don't see the appeal...
2005-08-02 18:13:30 byzantium [Reply | View]
I don't understand why you didn't mention the early photo sharing sites like Ofoto and shutterfly. Surely Flickr is not the actual first site to enable photo sharing!
I've seen the A-list bloggers go ga-ga over Flickr. I'm a photographer who shares a ton of photos on my own site. I have a blog. I've tried Flickr -- I don't get it. You can't even get real photographic prints from the site. Surely this is the most obvious thing anyone would want to do with a photo?
bman
-
RE: I still don't see the appeal...
2005-08-02 20:46:32 Derrick Story |
[Reply | View]
Well, of course, everyone has their preferences, and that's fine. But I do want to keep this discussion going.
First, Ofoto (now Kodak EasyShare) and Shutterfly are great services. I use Shutterfly a lot for client proofs and think they do a good job. But I don't think of these services the same way I do flickr, which I also like.
Flickr is the easiest way to take a shot I've just captured and share it with others, especially those who are my friends and family. I like the tagging system, uploading tools, RSS output, etc. Also, the site is just plain enjoyable to use. Browsing and looking at other photographers' work runs the entire spectrum from impressive to depressing.
So even though other services, including .Mac are noteworthy, in general I feel flickr is the most innovative of the bunch and comes closest to a Web 2.0 application. -
RE: I still don't see the appeal...
2005-08-03 08:09:36 Fraser Speirs | [Reply | View]
Derrick,
I feel that the point people miss at first glance with Flickr is that it's not just a "site", nor even a "Web 2.0 application" - it's a platform.
To me it's analogous to "why should I choose a Pocket PC over a programmable calculator?" - because you know that you and others can extend and adapt the tool to do things that the designers never intended.
People want that kind of platform remixability. You would not believe the number of people that have mailed me asking for a port of FlickrExport to other photo hosting services. Flickr's already there and doing it, with deep APIs, not just a form that you can POST to from a client.
Fraser -
RE: I still don't see the appeal...
2005-08-04 10:43:25 byzantium [Reply | View]
So I've already invested hundreds of hours typing in keywords into Canto Cumulus for my collection of about 40,000 images.
Now I've got to type those in again? I don't think so.
I really don't see how Flickr helps professional photographers.
bman -
RE: I still don't see the appeal...
2005-08-19 23:58:14 jeremycherfas [Reply | View]
If Canto can embed your keywords as IPTC metadata, at least Flickr will read them.
Which is more than one can say for iPhoto.
-
RE: I still don't see the appeal...
2005-08-08 13:57:15 Giles Turnbull |
[Reply | View]
I take your point that Ofoto, etc have been around for longer, but I haven't seen a photo sharing service that matches Flickr in terms of building community and the process of actually sharing pictures. On every other site I've ever tried, you only get to browse one person's pictures at a time.
On Flickr, the emphasis is on exploration and it is made very easy to share your own photos, and browse other people's.
I know other sites have similar features, but I think Flickr's implementation of them is better.
I'd say a professional photographer could do well simply by posting a handful of photos there, just to establish a presence and join the community. There's no need to post every one of 40,000; just your favorites.
You're right about prints, though. That's something I'd expect them to offer very soon, especially now they have the financial might of Yahoo! behind them.





