Making a Smooth Move from .Mac to Google
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Online Storage
One of .Mac's strong points is its ability to provide you with a convenient online storage solution. Although Google is rumored to soon be providing an official online storage system via a new GDrive service, nothing official is out yet. Nonetheless, some clever folks have figured out ways to hack GMail's file system to provide you with ways of storing information online using GMail. For Mac users, gDisk is a nice frontend for uploading files.
Basically, gDisk and other software like it (GMail Drive for Windows and GMail Filesystem for Linux) use a clever hack that allows you to store information online by creating a special draft message with an attachment that corresponds to the file you uploaded. When you're using the gDisk client, you access the remote file via the gDisk interface and never need to know what's going on in the back room. When you're on the go and don't have ready access to the client software, you can just yank attachments right out of your Drafts folder from within GMail.
If online storage is of particular interest to you, it might also be worth noting that GMail currently offers you almost 3GB available for gDisk-related activities while .Mac storage caps you out at 1GB.
Google Groups
Just as .Mac allows you to create .Mac groups, Google offers you Google Groups. A big benefit of Google Groups over .Mac Groups is that you don't have to be a GMail member to be in a Google Group, whereas you do have to have a .Mac account to create or be in a .Mac group. Creating a group in .Mac also costs you 30MB of storage. Basically, Google Groups are a Google-endorsed way of creating your own custom mailing lists.
Blogging and Photocasting
Apple's fairly new iWeb application explicitly integrates blogging into your .Mac experience, but you could have used an application like iBlog to manage a blog hosted with .Mac for a long time now. Of course, you probably already know that Google has owned Blogger since 2003, so you can get your blog on Google-style as well. Feel free to use your favorite OS X blogging tool to blog to your heart's content with your new Blogger account instead of your .Mac account.
Likewise, you can share photos via Google's recently released Picasa Web Albums tools; there's both a standalone application and a plugin for iPhoto. Although not yet available for OS X, Picasa's integration with Hello for Windows users is every bit as sophisticated as a .Mac photocast, so hopefully it won't be long before a universal binary or web-based application becomes available. Until then, you can still share photos with Picasa in a few other ways, or try out a Flickr feed from Flickr (a Yahoo! company.) Currently, you get 250MB for free with your Picasa account and have to pull out the wallet if you want more space.
Synchronization
Another of .Mac's strong suits is its ability to synchronize your data and settings over multiple machines. An overview of moving to Google wouldn't be complete without addressing this topic, but it turns out that there's not a lot to say. Since Google services are inherently web-based, synchronization takes care of itself. One synchronization tool Google does offer, however, is the Google Browser Sync Firefox extension. It's capable of keeping your browser settings such as bookmarks, history, etc. synced up across multiple browsers and can even restore browsing sessions from one machine to the next!
It's also interesting to note that even though nothing readily comes up from a quick search, it would certainly be possible to produce a tool (even System Preferences style) that mimics the way .Mac syncs user information by leveraging the same concepts involved with gDisk and other online storage hacks. Such a tool would be very useful because it would provide the ability to arbitrarily sync data such as Keychain items, bookmarks from Safari and other browsers, etc. Keep your eyes peeled; something like this is bound to turn up sooner or later.
Do You Trust Google?
One big question in everyone's mind right now is whether or not Google can be trusted with virtually all of their information. Conspiracy theories run rampant and sites such as GoogleWatch have popped up all over the Net, but there are definitely plenty of Google champions out there too. This interview with Brin and Page provides some topics that are good food for thought, such as what does "Don't be evil" really mean? Who decides what is and isn't evil? Should Google not "taking your email hostage" make you trust them any more or less? It's a lot to think about--and the key is to make sure you are periodically thinking about privacy issues that are important to you.
Since Google is a search company at heart, being able to mine your data is of particular interest to it, so it probably won't be offering to do this anytime soon--but it would be neat to have a suite of tools (perhaps Greasemonkey scripts) capable of performing client-side encryption/decryption on data before it's ever sent to Google's servers. Even a mechanism as simple as a basic cipher would provide a minimal amount of privacy while not overtaxing your browser's JavaScript engine. Anyone?
What Else?
Recalling that our intentions were to discuss how to make a smooth move to a Google-centric online experience as an existing .Mac member, there are a lot of neat Google services that we couldn't talk about simply because they're not on topic. But there is one that you should know exists--not because it's directly comparable to a .Mac feature, but because many .Mac users wish there were a better way to keep snippets of text and other small notes synchronized across multiple machines.
You guessed it. Google Notebook is the Google app (still in the labs) that allows you to manage text clippings like notes and to do items while you're browsing the Web. There's also a great Firefox extension, which some prefer to the Google Notebook interface itself. If you can live with Firefox, the Google Notebook and Google Browser Sync extensions go a long way to make Firefox even more powerful.
You can always review everything Google is cooking up on its products page. As of late, its Docs & Spreadsheets duo have been getting a lot of press.
Is it a good idea to move away from .Mac's paid subscription to a free Google-based online experience? What's .Mac doing right that Google is not and vice versa? Do you trust Google any more or less than Apple with your precious information? Like any other topic, there is always more that can be said, so please share your thoughts below.
Matthew Russell is a computer scientist from middle Tennessee; and serves Digital Reasoning Systems as the Director of Advanced Technology. Hacking and writing are two activities essential to his renaissance man regimen.
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Growl support? Nope.
2006-11-06 10:56:32 unusualfall [Reply | View]
Google Notifier does not have Growl support, as this article states (did the author actually use the app?). It has a feature that resembles Growl notifications, but as far as I can it's not Growl-based, and it's definitely not as good looking or feature-rich as Growl. I don't know why Google doesn't just add Growl support, but in the meantime you can download a 3rd party app called Gmail+Growl <http://wafflesoftware.net/gmailgrowl/> to get all the wonderful features of Growl. I think I should say the word "Growl" again. Growl.
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Or You can....
2006-11-04 15:06:28 metfuel [Reply | View]
go to dreamhost.com and get for the same price as .Mac a 200gb server and configure it to work like .mac does. There are multiple places online that show you how to configure a server to do this.
Currently I have done what this article has said but over a year ago. I am probably going to set up my dreamhost account though to handle my syncrnizations though.
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What about back from Google?
2006-11-03 16:55:02 33Nick [Reply | View]
Really good article. I have been thinking about it as spending $100 for a .Mac acct doesn't seem worth it.
I loved when you touched the trusting issue on everyone's mind. However, I want to bring another one. Google has been the darling of the IT world for a while but they are growing and they have to answer to investor, they are getting bigger... get the picture? One day they might be the next monopoly. Looks familiar? Think way back to when Microsoft was a babe and worked with its clients, etc.
I see Google ending up like Microsoft at one point so my question is, how do you back up from Google into your computer easily. I hope I didn't miss that point in your article or through my search.
Thanks,
Nick
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Ouch
2006-11-03 16:32:56 appleproject [Reply | View]
Nice article. It's clear with the confluence of web services, and the quality and functionality of these services, Apple's .Mac is creeping towards the AOL category: an overpriced "beginner's" product.
That said, I've been on it since it was iTools, and I plan on continuing to renew yearly. But I don't pay $100/year. More like $50-60. I've posted a how-to save 50% or more on .Mac on my website for anyone who does plan on sticking with Apple: apple-project.com
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Sticking with .Mac for now
2006-11-03 08:39:51 simdude [Reply | View]
I've also thought about switching but for me, Google just won't work yet. Here's why I think .Mac is a better choice (for me):
IMAP Mail. This is a big one. To be able to have the same mailboxes on my desktop and web is huge. I often use a laptop and sometimes don't have internet access. I like having all the same mail in both places. I keep software registrations etc. in my mail too so setting up a new machine is easier. Then, when I'm back on the net, everything is synced. <\p>
Better Syncing. It seems the article contends you don't need syncing with everything on the web. Well, again, true if you have an internet connection. But that can go out. Plus, I want a sync with my Treo 650 and iPod. All this works flawlessly with .Mac and Missing Sync.<\p>
Email aliases. You can have up to five active at once and all come to the same inbox. Getting too much spam? turn one off or make a new one. As a side note, .Mac DOES have server-side spam filtering. I find it works about as well as yahoo's but not as good as Googles. here a link to the Apple doc: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86748
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Anyway, for me .Mac is the best choice right now. I think there should be a better price point for renewing or a lower price point for .Mac iLife combos (actually, there's a $20 discount for iLife now, but that's for 06. A little late guys.<\p>
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re: Sticking with .Mac for now
2006-11-03 10:18:06 joeyxxx [Reply | View]
I'm also sticking with .mac for now since I'm very dependent on automatic keychain, address book and yojimbo syncing and I haven't found an alternative sync service out there. -
Sticking with .Mac for now
2006-11-03 09:05:29 Matthew Russell |
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I can't help but notice that the link about .Mac doing server side spam filtering was last updated in 2004. I've received an awful lot of spam since then, and am sure that the tactics of the spammers have changed significantly since then.
At this point, Apple's server side spam filtering is so pathetic that they'd be better off just saying that they don't do it as an effort to at least save face in that arena.
Again, I'm passionate about this, because it along with the inability to edit my calendars on the web were two factors that drove me out... -
Sticking with .Mac for now
2006-11-03 10:08:56 simdude [Reply | View]
It's possible .Macs filtering was ok for me because I only gave out my email to friends and never received a spam message for almost 4 years. Only in the last couple months have I started to get them. Of course, once your address is out there, there's not stopping it so spam could become a big problem for me this year. I rarely see spam make it into my gmail box. I agree with the Calendering. While google lets you import is there any way to keep Apple's iCal or Apple's Address book always in sync with google? This would solve my Treo syncing problem and I could use this years .Mac subscription to start a transition.
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A question of Trust
2006-11-03 04:45:35 Betty_Davis [Reply | View]
Is what it really comes down to. Ideally, if there was an easy way to replicate .Mac on ones own server; THAT would be the perfect solution. Apple or Google, who do you trust? They're both great companies, but the problem isn't with them; it's with gov'ts that always have a nack of fucking things up. Unfortunately, that's where the trust breaks. If you want something done right, do it yourself. My 2 cents.
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syncing to cell phones
2006-11-01 18:02:23 w1n78 [Reply | View]
once this is possible with google the google apps, i'm totally in. the address book to gmail is great for syncing between computers but leaves out my phone. so i'm stuck using address book and .Mac :(
same with iCal. though there is a beta app releasing soon that will sync iCal and google calendar
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Almost ...
2006-11-01 17:23:50 hardcoreUFO [Reply | View]
I was almost ready to make a similar jump. However, I am quite hooked on Backpack's calendar, which is much more usable than Google Calendar. Also, several of Google's nice features in Gmail and other apps do not work in Safari, which is simply unacceptable. I'd love to dump .Mac, but a viable alternative has yet to emerge.
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Poignant & Objective
2006-11-01 17:09:06 joelsanda [Reply | View]
I just made the decision to not renew my family's .mac membership. We'll be shipping the three of us over to Google - for all the reasons cited here.
For those who like to have access to information offline (for me that's email, calendar, and address book) it's possible, with a little effort, to use existing Apple apps with Google.
Mail.app will connect to Gmail using POP mode. All email I send/receive via the web interface when I'm away from my primary Mac (G4 iBook) is downloaded to Mail.app when I log in with that.
iCal.app integration is not quite there yet. It's all one way. So I cannot subscribe to a Google Calendar in iCal and then update the iCal version of that calendar because it's flagged as read only. Spanning Sync (http://www.spanningsync.com/) is promising a tool that will truly sync those.
The Mac Address Book has all the tools mentioned in your article for maintaining a synchronized Address Book on the iBook and Contacts on Google. The day those become a chore I suppose Applescript or Automator will become handier.
Thanks for the great article - I'm sure it well help a lot of folks keep an extra $99 in their pocket and have a better suite of tools.
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Good overview
2006-11-01 16:18:48 vergil66 [Reply | View]
I just completed the process of migrating to Google-based services. It pained me to finally let go of my @mac.com email address, but overall I am happy with GMail and friends. Though it wasn't a requirement to have most of my stuff in one place, Google has a nice suite of tools that worked well for me.
Because it use a Mac at home and have to endure the Dell at where I work, the web solution seemed to be less time consuming, thus making me a tad more productive (instead of trying to find the work-arounds and Mac-Windoze compatabilities and the other time eatters).
About the only thing that will be annoyingly time and mind consuming is the addressbook transfer...which you address in this article and I hope will work fine. Until then, I'm just adding folk as I write to them using GMail.
Thanks for the timely piece.





